Saturday, 19 January 2013

Americans and their Guns

To stray from the Predictions of 2013 series, I did an infographic of the gun control debate raging in the US, along with some statistics. The objectives of Obama gun control rules come plainly from the White House publication on the topic. As one can see, the proposed regulations are quite practical.


Some important things to note that were omitted: 

  • The British example will be cited in the debate. After banning guns the country experienced a growth in crime, and homicides. However, this growth declined in 2002, and continues to do so. 
  • Most experts on the topic would agree that carry laws (allowed to carry a weapon in public) cannot be given credit for reduction in crime. There are too many variables, and most likely the cases in question follow the statistics golden rule that correlation does not mean causation. 
  • Obama has actually been one of the worst President's for gun control in his past term, as he was given a grade of "F" by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. Obama has by no means been an enemy of the NRA during his tenure. 



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John said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJdhAm_oUUs I'm not huge on guns but, this issue is a big deal right now. Most countries that have recently experienced a reduction in crime in the last twenty years have done so by reclassifying them, so they no longer qualify as crimes. Also crime are committed almost entirely by one demographic: young men. Britain has a lot fewer of them recently. The states with the lowest gun crime rates are the ones with the most liberal gun laws (ones where they are more legal). Also America as a whole still has half the frequency of violent crimes, that Canada has. Check out what the definition of "Assault weapons is," it' s not what most people think, they are mostly just things dealing with appearance. Here's another from the eccentric Ted Nugent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjNwMOLulUQ the statistics you provide are answering the wrong questions. These's a book called "More Guns, Less crime" written by a man who is not big on the 2nd amendment, but big on stopping as much crime as possible. BTW Switzerland requires that every home have a semi-automatic, they have such a low gun crime rate that they dont even keep statistics!

Alex said...

I noted the Swiss. They also are all trained soldiers, so they actually know how to use their weapon. Additionally, guns and ammo are kept separate.

Stating that the states with the lowest gun crime rates are the ones with the most liberal gun laws is relatively false, as it's a statistical golden rule not to correlate causation with correlation. Additionally, I'm not sure if it's even true.

The whole "most countries have recently experienced a reduction in crime in the last 20 year have done so by reclassifying them" is a moot point - as I look at handgun/gun crimes only. Fact is, Australia had 13 massacres in 16 years or something like that before they banned guns. They had none since. That makes a pretty strong argument.

As a person who has been surrounded by guns his entire life, has a gun license and shoots semi regularly, I feel that gun control is necessary and most responsible gun owners feel the same way. A good chunk of the population are not fit to own a firearm, and those people by law should not be allowed one.

This issue is not left vs. right. This is about common sense.

John said...

first paragraph: I dont see how that would affect the argument.
Second paragraph: It's true, and we know it to be true, the more strict gun control laws that exist in a state the higher the violent crime rate, in fact if you take the strict versus the otherwise carry states the violent crime rate is higher by a margin of 2-1. And of course there are other factors, for instance those strict states tend to release their criminals earlier from prison, something like 96% of gun criminals are repeat offenders who have been in jail, or at least convicted. In any case gun control laws almost only affect those who would follow the laws in any case. If you look at handgun crimes only, you miss the point of my argument, more guns = less crime. That statistic in Australia might be helped by an examination of that fact. This is an article that came out today by Thomas Sowell, a personal hero of mine: http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2013/01/22/do-gun-control-laws-control-guns-n1493958?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

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